Tuesday, October 30, 2007

I was permanently banned from Digg

On Monday, October 29, I was permanently banned from Digg for posting a link that hit the front page. Since then, word has spread that I was banned, and felt the need to clear the air about a couple of issues that have been raised.

First and foremost, this is not the first time I had been banned from Digg. That much needs to be made very clear. I had been banned from the site 3 times previously; all for different reasons.

The first time, I was scrounging around on the web looking for something to submit, and found a great photo of a tattoo. Without thinking to check the rest of the page; or simply just submitting a direct link to the photo; I posted it on Digg. Well, as it had turned out, there was some nudity towards the bottom of the page. I apologized for the incident – it was a mistake after all – and was reinstated.

The second time was a “bot ban”. I, along with several other Diggers, was banned over what they have termed “mass blind digging”. Apparently it was an “algorithm” thing, where users who were digging too frequently were banned. I, along with the others, was reinstated.

Finally, the third time was for another submission. I had posted a set of links I found on del.icio.us. Turns out that some of the links went to some very NSFW sites. Whoever discovered that was clearly unhappy and decided to ban me. Again, I acknowledged the mistake, and everything was sorted out.

Now, before I continue, I’d just like to point out that I’m not having a whine about being banned. I screwed up, and made a mistake. It happens, I am human. & I am fully aware that in this day and age there are plenty of other online playgrounds I can go and crash into. Which I intend to do, of course.

My key issue with the permanent ban is that, for me, the math just doesn’t add up. I wasn’t in the Top 100 Diggers list (though I was close). I had submitted 1800+ stories to Digg in over a year, and had a nice little 5% front page rating.

Digg’s anti-abuse system is obviously and clearly set up to deal with people who are spamming, trolling, or going out of their way to abuse the system.

So, I’ve made a total of 4 infractions against the TOS. That’s 4 incidences out of 1800+ posts.

Is 4 out of 1800 abusing the system?

I do not believe so.

According to Digg, my account has been permanently removed; and my IP has been blocked from registering. In my view, the consequence does not really fit the situation considering that I have well over 1796+ incidences of conforming with and observing the terms of service.

The key issue is not that this has happened to me. The key issue is that it can happen to anyone.

Anyone can make mistakes.

If you’re a power digger and submit a lot of stuff; I recommend AGAINST posting anything – and I mean ANYTHING – that could be construed as NSFW. Even if it hits the front page at Reddit or other sites; the powers-that-be over at Digg have itchy trigger fingers when it comes to this.

I just don’t want to see anyone fall into this same kind of trap I fell into.

& yes, it was my own mistake. I acknowledge that. I take responsibility for it. And I have apologized for it as well.

Will I ever be reinstated or allowed to register at Digg again? Your guess is as good as mine; but at present, it seems highly unlikely.

So let’s take a look at the post that got me permanently banned…

On Sunday, October 28, I noticed this post over at Reddit. I found it very humorous. It had hit their front page without incident, so after some thought I figured it would be safe to submit it to Digg. Evidently, I was wrong.

The post gathered attention quickly in the upcoming stories section, and I believe it hit the front page on Monday. It quickly gathered 1000+ diggs.

During Monday, when I logged into Digg, my account was all weird. Everything had disappeared: my posts, comments, diggs, fans, friends, and images. I e-mailed Digg to find out what the deal was, and that was when I found out I was banned. And that it was a permanent ban.

Later, a good friend of mine who also posts to Digg posted this story about what had happened to me. While it was dugg and commented on by numerous people, it was removed from the upcoming stories list.

My point behind making this post tonight was to primarily let people who were on my friends list know what was going down. But more importantly, I just don’t want other people falling into the same issue I did. We’re all human and we make mistakes. It happens.

I have no idea whether there will be any positive outcome from this incident; though I will be fighting it because I think their consequences were too harsh considering some of the explicit material that has been posted at Digg in the past (goatse links in comments, anyone?).

Consider also that there were some diggers in the past who accepted payments for submissions and diggs – some of those who were caught are still digging away. I’m not saying their infractions are worse than mine; but it does seem to be some kind of double standard working here. Or perhaps, a lack of consistency.

Finally, I want to thank those of you who supported and dugg my stuff over the last year or so. I don’t know whether I will end up back at Digg or not; but I appreciated being part of the community and found it a hell of a lot of fun. You know who you are, so thanks. Catch me online on IM. You know where to find me.

& if anyone’s interested where I am headed for the time being, I’m going to be posting stuff over at Mixx.com. Check it out if you get a chance; it’s a new site and just starting out, but seems to be a lot of fun.

Cheers to you all. Much love and respect; keep on digging away.

Greg Davies aka cGt2099


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That's a HUGE bummer. I love your submits. I'll find you on Mixx and send email spam to Digg until they reinstate you. BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU POST!


lizblaze said...

Hey Greg it looks like we've caused quite a controversy over at the Digg communnity! Oh well can't win them all I guess, Digg Elite is behind you all the way!

Resonate said...

Get your self an online oroxy or download a free program to intergrate into your browsers to get back on =)

fastfastlane said...

Your efforts and submissions to Digg is a loss to the community as a whole. Hopefully they'll see the light that they were a little overzealous by placing a permanent ban and reinstate you.

I'm surprised that Liz's digg was pulled. Likely this second one will be too.

You have my support :-)

Me said...

I was also banned and am awaiting a reply to my email to see if they will reinstate me. I never used vulgar language or made racist comments like allot of their posters do and wham I try to log on and banned shows up.
Well I hope the best for you!

instoremarketer said...

Sounds like you have good taste in websites, you should keep working on your own blog and get your own audience.

Keven said...

You're not alone to make honest mistakes. At least you got a response from them. I had TWO clear mistakes with my account, emailed them and didn't even hear back. I, along with more people are unlikely to go back to Digg. Too much reliance on algorithms, and not enough on actual people and SERVICE. It's a business like any other, and this will be their downfall if they don't clean up.

Anonymous said...

Well, it is just a website...but 1800 submissions gone has got to suck...

William Smythe said...

1,800 posts in one year? Dude, you should THANK them for banning you. It was time for you to discover that "life" thing that all the kids are talking about these days. No, seriously. You're messed up in the head if you're spending that much time on a website.

admin said...

that sucks, you were like my own personal stumbleupon filter. I'm now following you to mixx, will check it out.

TeqnoHaxor said...

F***. That's what they banned you for? I found that in upcoming, didn't realize it was you. It didn't even cross my mind that it could be viewed as a violation of the TOS.

I've always found it astonishing how the mass media can show a naked 4 year old girl if it's medical-related, anyone else of course serves a long jail sentence. Bad analogy perhaps, but it's interesting to consider that Digg has become the mass media, in the early days something like this would've earned you an e-trophy for comedic value. Today, political correctness takes its toll.

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jim said...

looks like the internet is serious business.

Ally said...

Digg suppresses political viewpoints as well. Frankly, I think it's a tar pit, and I wouldn't waste my time on Digg.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for posting great stories. Sorry to here u cant anymore.U had a good run!!!

Bruce said...

Greg Davies aka cGt2099,

I want you to know that in honor of you and also others and my own feeling on being trod upon, I wrote the top people at Digg just now, and told them to cancel my account, and that I'm no longer wanting to be associated with Digg in any way.

I mentioned specifically what happened to you and specifically asked for Kevin and Jay to be cc:ed my letter... I'm done and Digg is buried in my book.

I won't bother you with my own issues with Digg because you certainly already have heard them, but thanks for the warning and I'm now yoda on Mixx, and i'm enjoying it already.

maybe we can be friends on Mixx, drop me a line, ok?

peace, and sorry to hear about what you went through.

yoda aka bruce m.

Paula the Surf Mom said...

You mean you got an E Mail from them?

Thats better then we've gotten... we are sending the Bay Area Reporter San Frans biggest gay publication over to Kevin's office to ask him about all of this.

NoSocialism.com said...

I think I just got banned too, not exactly sure why, I'm thinking probably because I was posting a lot of comments with links back to my website, but I'm not sure. Haven't received any sort of response from them yet.

Nyceane said...

me too, I post a lot of backlinks on high ranked diggs, since they dont have 'nofollow' on their comment system.

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